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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Oct 12, 2008 6:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Advice on commercial releases?

Sorry for posting something that really pertains only to me but I am just wondering how to get the most for my money. A local record store has a ton of GD Releases and I was going to bolster my collection (which as of now contains Dead Set, Workingman's (Bonus Tracks), American Beauty, and Anthem (Bonus Tracks). If memory serves correctly they have:

DPs: 1, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, and 24
One from the Vault, Three from the Vault
Live/Dead, Europe '72, Fillmore East 2-11-69
Jerry Garcia Collection Vol. 1: Legion of Mary (I enjoy them very much, just don't know how good the release is)

It's all a bit overwhelming, so any feedback would be appreciated! Thanks!

P.S. Since I feel a bit guilty about asking such a selfish question, I will recommend to you this exquisite Morning Dew that I just listened to (don't let the date scare you). If you haven't heard it yet, check it out; it will not disappoint!
http://www.archive.org/details/gd94-03-27.sbd.miller.20926.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: daliguana Date: Oct 12, 2008 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Hey, R&B, I'd go with the Jerry Legion of Mary to start.

This post was modified by daliguana on 2008-10-13 01:49:57

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Thanks for the rec daliguana. Legion of Mary is definitely some good stuff!

This post was modified by Rings&Bells on 2008-10-13 02:20:21

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Poster: Speaking in Swords Date: Oct 13, 2008 1:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Dick's Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, 15, 16, 19, 22, 29, 36
Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack
One From the Vault, Two From the Vault

--and if you're into the weirder shit, you can't go wrong with Infrared Roses and Grayfolded.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Disc 2 of Live at Fillmore East 2-11-69 (2 disc set) is great, but Live/Dead is better... if that's the remastered edition on Rhino/WEA in a cardboard case rather than the plastic case - get it for sure!
It's one of the first 16 track live albums ever recorded, and has a "wide screen" sound that the GD never got again on their live releases that I'm aware of.

Live/Dead may be over familiar to folks who've played it hundreds of times, but it's essential, a lot of effort went into making it the ultimate live recording, it's not just a great performance, it's also a great mix.
Virtually flawless.

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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Thanks! It is indeed the remaster. I'll have to keep that in mind. The only thing I don't like about those remasters is that I can never seem to keep the corners of the cardboard looking nice; they get frayed from taking them out and putting them in my CD Tower.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Maybe get a blank empty plastic jewell case for the Live/Dead disc and put the paper digi-pak cover in a mylar or plastic sleeve to keep it mint...
or even frame it in UV filter archival (plexi) glass - why not!

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Poster: spacedface Date: Oct 13, 2008 3:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

I even duplicate ones I play a lot or travel with. At this point I've bought vinyl and CDs of too many things multiple times, so backups are great.

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Poster: stilldead77 Date: Oct 13, 2008 3:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

I would get them all.

Live Dead -- Killer/Classic

DP -- All of them are worthy
19 -- the best, 23, 24 are awesome.

Vault -- Nice stuff, like 1 better, 3 is fun, the night before should be a release.

JERRY JERRY JERRY!!! -- In addition, get the Pure Jerry 3.18.78 if ya can

Europe 72 -- Gotta have it

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Poster: ned the head Date: Oct 13, 2008 5:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

instead of a record store try Borders. they usually have a good GD selection.

Rockin' the Rhein and Steppin' out are both great values

as far as Dicks Picks...volume twelve

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Hmmm--tough choices there. I will say that I think 2-11-69 had the tightest opening jam to LLight of ALL I have heard (seriously, listen to how together they are as they smoke it from the 1.45 min mark), and the Eleven is one of the best. Skip the Hey Jude, but overall, for a complete show (unlike Live Dead), I actually prefer this one. I also, shudder to say, think ThreeVault is outstanding. One of my fav 71 shows.

I would say that for the commercial releases, you have to have TwoVault, 2-11-69, FillmoreBoxed set (ie, instead of Live, get the 3 CD collection), and then the DPs from 69 and 70 (sorry, don't have the numbers, but defn want the acoustic ones).

I know that's a lot from a three yr period, but worth every penny in my biased opinion.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

DPs: 4, 8, 16 & 26

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Hey Rings! One From The Vault is essential IMHO, just a great show, and Live/Dead is a must also. DP 19 is also a really good show from 10/19/73.
Unfortunately my favorite "official releases" aren't on your list, but they are "Stepping Out With The Grateful Dead, England 1972", "The Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack" and "Ladies & Gentlemen, The Grateful Dead". I love all of these releases and would recommend getting them. The sound quality and selections on these are fantastic. I own pretty much every release the band ever put out and these are my favorites.

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Poster: waynecs Date: Oct 13, 2008 6:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

All the GD you listed is worth having and IMO the LOM release is fantastic.

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Poster: sambonk Date: Oct 13, 2008 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Truckin up to Buffalo

Great Sound on that!!Great nugget of the Summer tour 89.IMHO,the best tour of the 80's!

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Poster: smgarcia Date: Oct 13, 2008 5:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Europe 72, and then all of the Dick's Picks based on whatever order you like from the years. I can't remember all of the years for those

1 - 1973
19 - 1973
20 - 1976
21 - 1985
22 - 1968
23 - 1972
24 - 1974

My favorite of these specifically would be the two 1973 shows. Next woul be the 1972, then you can pick from the rest.

Good luck!

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Poster: caspersvapors Date: Oct 13, 2008 1:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

of the dicks picks you listed, 19 is a fucking winner for sure. powerhouse show in a powerhouse year

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Poster: mcglone Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

reckoning, DP 12 & 36. love my pizza tapes too.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Oct 13, 2008 6:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

For my money one from the Vault is a must have. great sound and excellent performance. The other on your list that I reccomend highly is DP1. Doesn't seem to get alot of mention, and while not the complete show, what is there is outstanding....especially sweet version of HCS.

I'm not particularly familiar with all of the DPs, i haven't heard a bad one yet. I would say you can't go wrong with choosing them based on which ones you think have a particular song selection that you like...or you could just do as I am sure some here have done and just get them all!!
Good luck with your decisions..I'm sure whichever ones you choose, you will not be dissapointed.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Both of the vault releases are also multitrack recordings that have a much fuller sound than the sbd recordings that I had previously acquired. I really like the One from the Vault show. Still one best H>S>F's and a great Crazy Fingers imo.

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Poster: kochman Date: Oct 12, 2008 7:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

I recommend trying the following, unless you are one of those tools who thinks it is noble to pay...

www.google.com - enter "rapidshare" plus "whatever official" you want and "grateful dead"

or... www.demonoid.com (you need an invite)
or... www.thepiratebay.org (no invite needed)

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Oct 13, 2008 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Apart from bad karma, what you'll get with rapidshare or bittorrent copies is most likely mp3s rather than the original high-quality sound on the remarkably inexpensive CDs.

My favorites on your list:

LiveDead: *the* GD commercial release, and the best live album of all time, IMO
1ftVault: perfect recording, perfect performances
DP19: an amazing fall 73 show. Discs 2 and 3 are stunning throughout
DP22: primal early 68 shows, with the raw congested sound of that time, but amazing thematic jamming (that's Cliff's term)
DP23: a great show from arguably the best week of the band's career


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Poster: rastamon Date: Oct 13, 2008 6:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

by all means, don't be a noble tool, just an honest one.
I've bought several used DP's and GD DVD's from Rasputin Records in Berkeley & Stockton. Usually for 1/3 to 1/2 the price...honest!



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Poster: spacedface Date: Oct 13, 2008 3:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

Dick's Pick's are just as cheap direct from the GD, at least from Amoeba and Rasputin as I remember.

I remember the Anthem of the Sun rerelease being better than my record or old CD.

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Poster: kochman Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

I love these guys...

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Poster: Greg Carmack Date: Oct 12, 2008 8:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Advice on commercial releases?

I'm with cream-puff-war on Live/Dead, it's essential--you might do well to work outward from where you are: backwards from Workingman's toward Anthem with Live/Dead, forward from Beauty to Europe '72. After that, you really can't go wrong with a single release you've listed--just depends what years appeal to you.

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